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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted July 02, 2002 02:46 PM

Recent events

Community is what you as a member contribute to it. Today I have seen several members contribute complaints and accusations. And surely enough Heroes Community now feels like complaints and accusations.

I am a member too and today I've contributed what I would like to see here. I've written about a new possibility that I found in my life. That is what I want this community to feel like. And this is what I am doing with this message. I will not accuse or complain about anyone because I do not want to see complaints and accusations at Heroes Community.

I invite you to look at what you have been contributing to Heroes Community today. Is it what you would like to see here? If not, why did you do this? Will you do it again?

If you are one of the members who does not want to see complaints, what did you do about it? If you have attacked the attacker, complained about the complaint, then you have done no different. If that is the case, you have created more of what you don't like to see, more complaints and accusations. I invite you to be responsible for what you create here.

I invite you to create a community free of complaints and accusations. I invite you to resolve issues by talking to people directly and to create what you would like to see here.
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted July 02, 2002 03:13 PM

I take responsibility for my actions and i apologize for turning parts of the library to a battle field.
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Romana
Romana


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Thx :D
posted July 02, 2002 03:20 PM

LMAO..oh pleaseeee..Look at the tosser GOD now..as soon as Valeriy comes here he acts all responsable..This just makes me SICK
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nidhgrin


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posted July 02, 2002 03:25 PM

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If you are one of the members who does not want to see complaints, what did you do about it? If you have attacked the attacker, complained about the complaint, then you have done no different. If that is the case, you have created more of what you don't like to see, more complaints and accusations. I invite you to be responsible for what you create here.


This post came that soon after mine that I hope it isn't meant for me.  If it is, then I apologize.  I didn't mean to throw more fuel on the fire, I was merely trying to provide a solution.  I've probably used the wrong words in my post, didn't mean to do that, sorry.

Peace!


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arachnid
arachnid


Promising
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posted July 02, 2002 03:44 PM
Edited By: arachnid on 2 Jul 2002


These sorts of rows/arguements i think make hc more interesting. I mean not only do they make everyone come online and add in there two cents worth it gives people something to argue and discuss things over.

Ok its not very important or a good thing to discuss but at least its a start. Way to many threads are closed that are providing interesting and in some cases slightly heated discussions.

I think its good for the site to get shaken up a bit every so often. I mean over this tiny and really unimportant discussion theres been about 10 threads made and at least a hundred posts made, and ive not seen 20 people on the site at one time for ages.

edit: at this time including guests theres 40 people on, For it just proves that rows and arguements improve the site rather than "HC is dying"

controversial??

GOOD!

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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted July 02, 2002 03:47 PM

Sir_Stiven,
I admire you for taking responsibility for contributing to what happened. And I will look at you as somebody who will be true to his word and be responsible for what you cause in the future.

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Romana
Romana


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Thx :D
posted July 02, 2002 03:54 PM

Oh come on Valeriy..you can't be serious..I feel like I'm inthe Catholic church right now..

Dear father bless me for I have sinned...
Yes my dear boy..say a few hail mary's and all is well

*PUKING*
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Conn
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Responsible
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God slayer
posted July 02, 2002 04:22 PM

Hmm... Somehow, i don't think talk will solve the problem. We've already seen that, and i think a stronger action taken by the admin is in order right now...
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Motorschaaf
Motorschaaf


Bad-mannered
Famous Hero
posted July 02, 2002 04:26 PM

well said anachid...well said i couldn't agree more.

Motorschaaf

btw. romana for once i have to agree: vals statements sound like a priest from a catholic church

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Sir_Elric
Sir_Elric


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Having a bad hair day.
posted July 02, 2002 04:31 PM

I agree too spiderboy.

Can we keep it to a few threads though?

Not PART 1,2,3,4,5,................17.........27,28!!!!

Then other people can find things they may be interested in rather than the babbling of a few wanna be's?!?
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted July 02, 2002 04:35 PM

Romana, i am not perfect and i do make mistakes like all of us. But look what happend to library now, it would be stupid of me not to say i wasnt involved wouldnt it? And therefor i take responsibility for my parts of this. And i wont reply to anymore of your accusations Romana, please grow up and get this overwith...dont make every new thread a fight just because you dont like me. It wont do the community any good.

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andiangelsla...
andiangelslayer


Disgraceful
Famous Hero
posted July 02, 2002 04:42 PM

blablabla...i apologize to noone, for what? and im also in no need of a teacher like valery, shes just supposed to be the head-mod and not the pope. so there
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Sir_Elric
Sir_Elric


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Having a bad hair day.
posted July 02, 2002 04:46 PM

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blablabla...i apologize to noone, for what? and im also in no need of a teacher like valery, shes just supposed to be the head-mod and not the pope. so there


That's "He" not she.
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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted July 03, 2002 12:28 AM

Pay attention to my words. I have not forgiven anyone. Sir Stiven, Motorschaaf and AndiAngelslayer have done things in library which are unacceptable. I totally stand by what Hexa has done. And if any of them continue this practice penalties will continue.

Library is a forum made for Strategy, trivia, fan fiction, mapmaking as outlined on the index page. Not for complaints and accusations of moderators.

What I have said does not go against the Rules of the Community outlined in FAQ. I and the moderators stick to the rules. Code of Conduct says:
"Moderators reserve the right to move, edit or delete any message for the purpose of keeping this community up to date, peaceful and organized."
That is what Hexa has done. And I am think that he is a trustworthy moderator doing the job as it should be done.

The fact that I admire Sir Stiven taking responsibility for what he contributed to does not mean in any way that what he did before that is right, or has my approval. If these events occur again they will have penalties as consequences, just like this time. I have already seen Sir Stiven be responsible as he said he would by discontinuing complaints and accusations. And I look at him as somebody who will be constructive rather than negative. No forgiveness of sins involved. I just know that people can change their ways of doing things.
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Motorschaaf
Motorschaaf


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posted July 03, 2002 12:57 AM

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Pay attention to my words. I have not forgiven anyone. Sir Stiven, Motorschaaf and AndiAngelslayer have done things in library which are unacceptable.



ah now i understand - if one of us complain, insults or tosses its unaccetable .  if oldtimer, romana or Mr. Dar_kraven do it its fine ?  
gratz val u know what balance is...


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And if any of them continue this practice penalties will continue.


NO please no more penalties NOOOOOOOOO !! ill be a good boy - dont raise my flood protect count NOO please not u can do all but not THIS !!!!!!!


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Library is a forum made for Strategy, trivia, fan fiction, mapmaking as outlined on the index page. Not for complaints and accusations of moderators.


i hope these rules would count for all members  - not just for 3 of em.


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That is what Hexa has done. And I am think that he is a trustworthy moderator doing the job as it should be done.



i disagree ( if im allowed to )

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No forgiveness of sins involved


i really start to think that this board is sponsored by the catholic  church.

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Romana
Romana


Responsible
Supreme Hero
Thx :D
posted July 03, 2002 01:08 AM

dear Motorschaaf..

you seem to think the "authority" is prejudiced against you..Have you ever stopped and to think why they would be prejudiced against you?? If you have an answer..please share it with us and if you don't stop whining and get on with it.

sincerely: Romana
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Aculias
Aculias


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Undefeatable Hero
Pretty Boy Angel Sacraficer
posted July 03, 2002 02:51 AM

If you are one of the members who does not want to see complaints, what did you do about it? If you have attacked the attacker, complained about the complaint, then you have done no different. If that is the case, you have created more of what you don't like to see, more complaints and accusations. I invite you to be responsible for what you create here.


Thjat is not fair Valiery I mean they dont give a crap. I seen you & mods let them FLame thy boards for a long time.
I stepped up to try somethang diferent but you delete it why.
What is fairness of thy balance to rhem.
To flame & traet every new person in here like crap.
I see in some ways they do deserve it with totally dumb questions but not all are dumb.
They are great in heroes I give them that but dont mean you have to show off the supremacy like you own HC.
How  am I no diferent if nothing is changing.
Disrespecting Hexa & ROmana really set me off & for no reason at all dont you see.
That was a direct attack & what were any of you going to do.
It wont stop.
Mention of fairness 7 what is fairness to them.
I think i been fair to speak my mind & it gets deleted.
Someone had to say somethang I think it's unfair?

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Oldtimer
Oldtimer


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posted July 03, 2002 02:52 AM

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Quote:
Pay attention to my words. I have not forgiven anyone. Sir Stiven, Motorschaaf and AndiAngelslayer have done things in library which are unacceptable.



ah now i understand - if one of us complain, insults or tosses its unaccetable .  if oldtimer, romana or Mr. Dar_kraven do it its fine ?  
gratz val u know what balance is...


Motorschaaf



I wish I knew there was so much passion about the Library, I amazes me that you even give a (expletive deleted), I didn't think that the posts in the Library held any interest for you at all.  It seems like a boring and dusty place in here, since it is dedicated to H3 and that talk probably has a limited shelflife.  Why all the passion?  Why all the attacks?  Maybe it is because this library needed some chairs thrown around.  Some people's feelings hurt, some tossing and flaming?

Did I start all this? Yep, I guess I did.  Maybe I should apologise to someone.....Hmmm...but who?  andi?  My post post was about andi, but I think he is tough enough to handle a toss without any hard feelings.  motorschaaf?  I only ask myself why?  stiven?  I think he enjoyed having a platform to express his greivences, no matter how slight they actually are.  How about Hexa?  He seems to be the main target of the collateral damage of my post, but I could not have forseen any of this crap so what could an "I'm Sorry" really do.  Maybe I should apologise to the new members, but unless they have extremely thick skin, I doubt if we will see them again.  

The funniest thing is that you high and mighty ones who love so much to insult and denegrate and humiliate new kids who find this place, can't take a little heat when it is directed at you.  Is that the kind of balance you are looking for?  You get to attack and everyone runs away or is too scared to reply? Maybe I'll just stick up for some of those new guys now and again, even if they make another redundant stupid thread.

Oldtimer,
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Preacher
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Valeriy
Valeriy

Mage of the Land
Naughty, Naughty Valeriy
posted July 03, 2002 03:29 AM

Aculias, I've moved some threads including yours to the Tavern, it was not deleted. The content of it does not match that of the library, so it better belongs in Tavern. It sank a few pages down because there are so many new threads in Tavern.

Motorschaaf, I will talk to you no further as long as you are not willing to look at your own actions and their effect on others. You set people up, provoke them, and then use the evidence to blame them. I will not talk to you about them. I will only talk to you about you.
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Sir_Stiven
Sir_Stiven


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posted July 03, 2002 10:12 AM

Quote:
Sir Stiven, Motorschaaf and AndiAngelslayer have done things in library which are unacceptable.

This is just what ive been talking about, i have accepted that parts of this fighting is on my concious but this is ridicioulus. If you seriously say we 3 are the only ones to blame for this you really need to learn that it takes two to tango.

The way i see this everything didnt start as Oldtimer said with his Andi sarcasm. This started when lith gave Andi a -QP for tossing. But it wasnt the -QP itself that started it i guess, it was the lack of balance. Ive seen people writing much harsher words than that in this fighting and yet again the only one that has gotten a penalty is Andi for a come back. Aculias slammed all of us personally, and there is no action at all taken against it. Personally i dont think there shouldnt be any action taken vs Aculias since He doesnt know what this is about, someone cried to him and he stood up for it. But if this place is to keep balance a post like that should get a -QP too.

I also realise that this is your "house" and off course we should treat it with respect, but we was joking with n00bs (To read the "how to treat n00b" argument find the thread for it) But the way i see it is just jokes, and Andi got a penalty for one. And i think it was same day oldtimer triggerd this by making a thread which only intention was to make a fool out of Andi. And there were no action taken against it at all. So i gave that thread a twist by telling how much we could use Andi as a mod (which i still think we can) and to do that i pointed out which qualities the library mod squad was missing in my opinion and how to solve it. Problem was that Hexa took it as a personal attack and people went in to protect him, and going personal while doing it and so the "war" started. But still it was only in one thread, but then Hexa decided to close it. And honestly i have no idea why because to outcome wasnt to unpredictable, the fighting spread to a number of different threads.

@Oldtimer, no i dont enjoy fighting. Somehow i get the feeling that you do, you must have known what was going to happend when you started a thread about something that sore. But i also think you reckoned that it backfired completely and therefor staying in the background afraid to get your hands dirty yourself. I know all about that one, i was the expert at it at a younger age so i do reckognize it.

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The funniest thing is that you high and mighty ones who love so much to insult and denegrate and humiliate new kids who find this place, can't take a little heat when it is directed at you. Is that the kind of balance you are looking for? You get to attack and everyone runs away or is too scared to reply?

No oldtimer, the funniest thing is that this is you talking about yourself. Myself, Andi and Motors all stayed and talked this out. You on the other hand took the first chance you got to go hide yourself, afraid to get involved in something that you couldnt handle. And then get back in as soon as things calmed down. We have a word for this in swedish but i wont say it because of i wont go down that road again.

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Maybe I'll just stick up for some of those new guys now and again, even if they make another redundant stupid thread.

Yes, maybe you will. Myself i doubt it tho, i dont think you have the guts to take the heat in case there is any.

Just my view of things, im not saying this to sabotage this "house" but as a member of this house i do feel that i have the right to speak whats on my mind (As long as i follow the Code of Conduct off course).
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